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  • Salice (Italian, sà·li·che): gracile, slender, slim, willowy.

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    Created on Sun, 7th June. Last edited on Sat, 29th August.
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I always wanted to build a retro condensed font. Given FontStruct's angular possibilities, it is not the easiest style to work with. However, the tall and slender letters have a special allure that designers can hardly resist. They evoke fond memories of vintage text styles from the 1960s and 70s. Retro condensed fonts are widely used for headlines, titles, signage, and branding.

Salice Sans is a low-poly incarnation of the common retro condensed type, and as such, it is rare. Constructing letters with slanted parts (A, N, M, V, W, X, Y) was especially challenging. I learned a good deal by iterating on those letters and getting closer to the optimal shapes.

Work in Progress.

Comment by Frodo7 Wed, 19th august
Comment by Frodo7 Thu, 20th august

Pretty nice font. Is the name pronounced /sʌ.liːs/ or /sʌ.laɪs/ though?

Comment by Bryndan W. Meyerholt (BWM) Thu, 20th august

@Bryndan W. Meyerholt: Thank you for your comment and rating. Salice is Italian for slender, willowy. It is pronounced as sa·li·che, similar to the brand name Versace. 

Comment by Frodo7 Thu, 20th august

The font is truly salice. Masterful execution.

Comment by kassymkulov Thu, 20th august

@kassymkulov: Thank you. It took me two and a half months to get to this level because of the summer heatwaves. It is difficult to do any creative work when your brain is cooked.

Comment by Frodo7 Thu, 20th august

Another cool angular design! The weight is well balanced. Love the inktraps too—though I am curious as to whether leaving them out on the M and N was a stylistic choice or a technical limitation. 
Anyways, thanks for keeping fontstruct alive! First thing TP worthy I’ve seen in a minute.

Comment by Gr4ftY (groan) Sat, 22nd august

@Gr4ftY (groan): Thank you for your comment. The strokes of the capitals are one brick thicker than those of the lowercase. I wasn't sure about the balance. A few capital letters feel too strong, even after modifications. FontStruct's Preview is not the best option for fine-tuning. I prefer to install the font and print out sample texts. I guess the inktraps should be reworked and made more uniform. The M and N likewise. Let's see what I can do. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. 

Comment by Frodo7 Sat, 22nd august
Congratulations! FontStruct Staff have deemed your FontStruction worthy of special mention. “Salice Sans” is now a Top Pick.
Comment by Rob Meek (meek) Sat, 22nd august

Congrates!

Comment by Dmitriy Sychiov (Sychoff) Sun, 23rd august

@frodo7:
Congrats on the TP!

Look, on the topic of M & N, you can do whatever you want—I’m not the best voice when it comes to consistency. I like the font either way, and I think whatever you settle with will be great. For all I care, you could treat the whole counter as an, albeit very wide, inktrap—and have a small amount of space in between where they intersect—

But I’m just throwing ideas around! Anyways, this “low-poly” theme is interesting, and I’m curious to see where it goes. Good luck!

Comment by Gr4ftY (groan) Sun, 23rd august

@Rob Meek: Thank you very much for the Top Pick. (Your comment is not visible here, but the pink star is.)

@Dmitriy Sychiov (Sychoff): Thank you.

@Gr4ftY (groan): Thank you. Last night I reworked the ink traps for all letters concerned (A, M, N, V, W, Y, etc.). I believe they look better than before. I need to print out some samples and check. The low-poly theme is trending. I wrote a short piece about it at Mithrandir and gave a list of low-poly fonts. I didn't use the term “low-poly” there, however. I think FontStruct is particularly well-suited for this theme, and I plan to build more low-poly fonts.

Comment by Frodo7 Sun, 23rd august

Your approach to A, K, M, N, R, V, W, X, Y and the inclusion of inktraps work well.

Comment by four Tue, 25th august

@four: Thank you for your feedback. I studied a few tall and slim fonts, and learned how to manage tight spaces or extreme angles. I'll make a few sample pics later.

PS.: Where is Elmo? Does anybody know it?

Comment by Frodo7 Tue, 25th august
Comment by Frodo7 Wed, 26th august
Comment by Frodo7 Wed, 26th august

I have updated the following glyphs: N, v, w, and 7. The capital N is a bit wider and feels more natural. The lowercase w looked especially feeble; it gained a bit of girth in the mid-section. Number seven is slightly thinner now. These modifications are hardly noticeable, yet important steps towards balance and harmony.

Comment by Frodo7 Wed, 26th august

For the dot diacritic, I wonder if it's possible to use the same dot that's on the lowercase i and j for consistency?

Comment by Bryndan W. Meyerholt (BWM) Fri, 28th august

@Bryndan W. Meyerholt (BWM): That's a very good point. It should be the same-size single dot, indeed. The dots of the diaeresis can be smaller. What about the middle dot for Catalan?

Comment by Frodo7 Fri, 28th august

@Frodo7 i'd say that the dot for “l·l” (catalan) should be the same as “.” and “ŀ” should also have the dot the same size as the “.” given that “ŀ” comes from catalan codepages

 

also the middle dot is used in maths to for multiplication, such as 34x·927=2888

Comment by Luca Prieto Bermūdez (elliqvl) Fri, 28th august

@Bryndan W. Meyerholt (BWM): Thank you for your comment. You dropped a pebble into my calm and settled pond and stirred up a lot of things. As a result, I made the dot the same size across the font, redesigned the comma/apostrophe and the period, and resized the arrows. After all these modifications, I learned the following:

In professional type design, the dot on the i (called a tittle) should usually not be the exact same size as the diacritic dot above on Ė and Ż. Although both are dots, they serve different visual and structural roles. The tittle on a lowercase i is an integral part of the letterform itself. Because it sits directly over a thin, single vertical stem, it is often digitally and optically adjusted to match or slightly exceed the stem's thickness to remain highly legible at small sizes. (source: Wikipedia)

Multinational typography has so many fine details to consider. Thus, I restored the original dots for the i and j.

 

Comment by Frodo7 Fri, 28th august

I meant like copy the dot that's on the lowercase i, j; then use that on the other letters with the dot diacritic

Comment by Bryndan W. Meyerholt (BWM) Fri, 28th august

@Bryndan W. Meyerholt (BWM): Yes, I tested that version too. It didn't look good. Overall, the current design of Salice Sans is more consistent than Arial Narrow Bold or Impact.

Next: I need a pretty ogonek.

Comment by Frodo7 Fri, 28th august
Comment by Frodo7 Today, 2:17 am

i don't think so…

Comment by Luca Prieto Bermūdez (elliqvl) Today, 8:08 am

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